HEL:
I'm new to this thread and have only quickly read the first page of it, but your comment to cyberjesus I would like to say something about it.
If God is hateful, it's because of the people that overlook him like he doesn't exist. You can't blame him.
Well are you suggesting here that God has a very thin skin and is easily offended? Your suggestion raises an image of a God that is a spoiled child angry and pouting for not getting his way all the time.
Come on now is that the way a super intelligence like God is suppose to act? Where is all his emotional intelligence in all this hatefulness just for being overlooked as Creator? Awfully touchy if you ask me. I would suppose a supreme being like himself would not care about such things enough to get all upset and angry over it unless he has emotional problems and anger issues.
Do you think that also these anger issues that you project onto your supreme Being are coming from you as some Narcissistic tendencies you are in denial of and so have visions and thoughts of a God that rightly hates to get slighted or ignored and where ever he goes in heaven he is having himself worshiped and his praises sung nonstop.